As you consider the story Dr. Crabb related about his elderly parents, discuss the concept of bankrupt foolishness and what the final years of life might look like when guided by the Spirit’s wisdom instead.

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    • #95336579
      Shane
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      I can’t even conceive of the living hell on earth of an elderly person in a state of bankrupt foolishness. My grandmother lived the final 15 years of her life, her body broken from a car wreck, in constant pain and suffering. However, she made those years into a living testimony of the hope that lies within her and she lived as an intercessor morning, day, and night. It was her final role and calling. She had successfully discarded most of the foolishness of this world having lived an often difficult life. It’s the path that I pray that I’m on as I continue to grow and discard the foolishness within me and embrace the Wisdom of a life lived with God.

    • #95334703
      Elena
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      Good ageing is about the knowledge that insane chasing after pleasure is like re-arranging the deckchairs on Titanic. Seeking pleasure just brings that – incidents of fleeting pleasure and annoyance and despair inbetween. Nothing other than seeking God (as the only source of real pleasure) can bring a sense of wisdom, cotentment and depth to one’s life. Everything else is bankrupt foolishness.

    • #95334347
      Waynette
      Participant

      Upon reaching retirement years, 65+, some people look to satisfy their longings with things that offer no long term, eternal value. The desires may turn towards selfish needs and/or whatever might make them look or feel better in those years. Compare this to another person in the same scenario who knows their foundation in God is firm. They have hope in the future, in what they have to look forward to and are still doing their best to show others this same hope.

    • #95333014
      Jim
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      As Elvis sang I did it my way

    • #95331211
      Lisa
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      Living in the Spirit’s wisdom in our retirement years will enable me to live out my calling until I die. If I intentionally move toward God in my younger years, I pray that I would still be in love with Him in my later years. I can see how foolishness is a sure presence in all of our lives, but Jesus is the antidote for this in giving us passion and peace. I want to invest in people and relationships now and all through my life.

    • #95324883
      Thu-van
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      Without God, and the peace and firm foundation of knowing who we are and the hope we have in Jesus, as our bodies lose their youth and vigor and our minds grow weary and slow, we will feel bankrupt no matter what we try to do!
      Only with the Spirit’s wisdom, loving God and others, will we find peace and contentment even as we see ourselves fading away from this world .

    • #95321993
      Wesley
      Participant

      The finals years of life being guided by the Spirit will firstly be years of hope. Hope for ones own future and eternal dwelling, hope for family and friends being head to the same destination. reflecting on years of joy and the goodness of God. Being satisfied in who He is.

    • #95321933
      Elaine
      Participant

      With accumulative experiences from living out their lives, people falling into the bankrupt foolishness will make decisions based on own knowledge, trying to take charge of everything even including how to end their lives when facing sickness and still belief that is the best choice. They possibly will miss living out their lives to the fullness, peace and hope are being robbed from them. Instead of having strength looking forward to eternality, they are only counting down the days.

      I remembered my late father-in-law even at his last stage of living with cancer, he could still share at our prayer group meetings how he saw the beauty of the path to heaven, sharing encouraging words to the group, embracing up coming death and telling other seniors that it was nothing to be afraid of.

    • #95319037
      Roy
      Participant

      Very interesting contrast between B F Skinner and Dr Crabb’s father. One having lived for selfish satisfactions and one feeling satisfied that he was where he believed God wanted him and that his life still had meaning and purpose… and HOPE. I cannot think about this contrast without thinking about the words of Mark 8 where Jesus talks about denying ourselves and taking up our cross. Jesus said whoever will save his life will lose it. If we live for ourselves and seek our own satisfaction we lose the thing we are seeking. If we invest our lives in loving and serving, being in relationship, with God and those around us, we find ourselves. The word bankrupt is just such a word of utter loss and emptiness. It describes pretty well what the later years will be like for someone who has invested strictly in the things of this world. The final years can look satisfying and hopeful if one has a sense of being a part of God’s bigger story and have desired loving and obeying Him above all else.

    • #95316526
      Bobbi
      Participant

      A person without the Spirit of God guiding their soul in life, eventually they will live out their lives being guided by their own knowledge and strength. Subsequently, this bankrupt fool will not live into the person that God has created them to be, plus, they will miss out on the Hope that He offers through His Son. Without this Hope, the bankrupt fool will be a hollow shell living only for the pleasure he/she can find on their own, whatever that may be. Their deepest thirst will not be quenched. On the flip side, someone who is guided by the Spirit’s wisdom will still experience troubles that may result in inexplicable pain, yet their Hope in what is to come that only God can supply will keep them going until they make it home (heaven).

    • #95315297
      Karen
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      Bankrupt foolishness is to not know your purpose or that you are loved and valued by God and others so feeling good comes from activities. Dr. Crabb’s father knows the LORD and that He loves us and has good plans for us. We can trust this even in the moments it is not evident. We walk by faith and not sight. I believe that his mother most likely had this but maybe as a caretaker and woman taking our value from relationships. She may have given to others and not allowed vulnerability or need in herself or others to be recognized or valued. These things are addressed in the sermon on the mount but not always valued or taught in our culture. The assurance that she was and is loved may be lacking at that moment (our enemy is the accuser and liar). We sometimes need to hear these truths from the lips of others.

    • #95312469
      Jennifer
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      We cannot do anything or have any hope, if we are not guided by the Spirit. As his father said, it was a torturous experience to watch, but he still was able to remember where his hope lies, and he was able to still have a sense of peace and joy in the midst of such difficult frustrating experiences.
      If all we can think about or put our hope in is the current circumstances, we will always be disappointed. If we can look to the hope of our God and what he provides our soul to fulfill us, we can have true life and hope.

    • #95291857
      Geraldine
      Participant

      Bankrupt foolishness is stepping up to reinforce what used to give you satisfaction and pleasure – eg. more spicer food to stimulate your dull taste buds, more hard-core pornography, more assertiveness to show you are in control… Frankly, it is like in living in quick sand, the more you struggle to keep up with reinforcers that gives one’s pleasures, the faster you sink.

      The greatest ‘disease’ to die from is “HOPElessness.”

      Dr Crabb’s parents and parents have a well-placed hope, The Christian hope lies not in the possessions and success we accumulated in this earthly life that gives us our significance or security, it rest in the hope of one is still loved by a loving God despite not losing my memories (Alzheimer’s disease), or losing my mobility, capability to be ‘efficiency.” It is this simple trust in a loving God, a relationship with God, a growing hope that we are ultimately seeing Him face-to-face – The best is yet to come! We are loved!

    • #95288326
      Lavina
      Participant

      I enjoyed the story of Dr. Crabb’s parents and his father’s hope that was not foolish, but instead was a well placed hope. I cannot fathom how difficult it would have been to be in Dr. Crabb’s father’s shoes if he had a spirit of bankrupt foolishness. Since his life was guided by the spirit’s wisdom, he was able to see beyond his present circumstances and was able to have hope of good things to come in Christ Jesus. But had he lived with the concept of bankrupt foolishness he would have felt the hopelessness and despair of his present circumstances. When I think of final years that can be guided by the spirit’s wisdom, I think of people who have so much to offer to those of us who are younger. A person who is in their senior years, and believes that the best is yet to come, will model so well what our purpose of being on earth is.

    • #95285354
      Janet
      Participant

      bankrupt foolishness in older people involves the concept that life has nothing left to offer. The best has been and gone. The spirits wisdom allows us to believe that the best is yet to come. life is still on track and every day has a purpose

    • #95284292
      Kevin
      Participant

      Hope in the Gospel vs what has occurred, been given, or, did by own means. the end goal, the end reward, the Prize as Paul would state is Dancing with the trinity as we were created to be .All else of this world does not compare! You look toward that fulfillment of truly knowing and being with God once again as we were created to be. Now that is the prime goal, that would give incredible Hope and peace, not loss and defeat. Two sides of a coin on which i hope to be on the side of Hope!

    • #95280410
      Nyya
      Participant

      To have the concept of bankrupt foolishness is not to know that the best is yet to come even at the age of 80 something. If we take a close look at life we can see that the best is yet to come, by enjoying your life in a GOD fearing walk. GOD has giving us chance after chance to pick up our cross and follow Him. Even if we do it towards the end of our life, there is still a chance not not waste any more time on doing foolish things. For example spend as much time as you can with family friends still creating memories. Your friends and love one will be glad that you did. Share with them the love of CHRIST. The love that He has for you and for them. Life is an example of the love that CHRIST has for us, death is a result of sin. JESUS came to give us eternal life with Him. We can go around doing foolish things up to our death. Show people how to love and that is leading them to JESUS, because the best is yet to come.

    • #125857
      Joy
      Participant

      I have a front row seat to this very thing. My father-in-law lives with us. He claims the Lord Jesus as his Savior. He spends his days sleeping and watching westerns. He can talk about God and has some interest in going to church, but that is about all I see. He is depressed and vacillates between talking about all the things he is going to do or that he is waiting to die. In the middle he mostly sits in his recliner. My mom was a contrast to that. She still had moments of “why am I still here”, but she spent much of her days interacting with God through prayer and Bible study and investing in people.

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      Our Daily Bread
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