What is the core disease of the human soul? Why is it wretched? Why do we often not personally sense that this disease is really so vile?

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      Geraldine
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      Living life without God.
      Wretched because Apart from Him, we are nothing.
      Without God, we still are to able to build a Tower of Babel, the Hanging Garden of Babylon, a religious institution, a prestigious seminary… we don’t sense it because we have the notion that success equals to God’s presence and blessing.

    • #95291830
      Lavina
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      The core disease of the human soul is a love of something or someone that is greater than our love for God. It is easy to start to believe that there are things that will provide greater satisfaction than a relationship with God but the truth is that nothing on earth will bring us satisfaction; only a deep relationship with God will satisfy the longing in our soul. We often don’t sense that this disease is so vile because it can often masquerade as a very good thing, such as ministry or relationships, but the truth is that anything that we value more than God will get in the way of our relationship with him.

    • #95289455
      MARIE G.
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      The core disease of the human soul is our fleshly desires, we treasure someone or something more than God. Things other people have such as big expensive houses, fancy sports cars, expensive vacations, and fancy expensive restaurants. It is wretched because we are putting our own desires and wants, above God. We are coveting other peoples stuff. We treat God, as if he is Santa Clause, we ask for lots of gifts, or blessings, we just want to take, and keep it for ourselves. When we are not thankful in return of what God has given us, his blessings, this is called wretched sin. God wants us to have a relationship with Him, not just ask for what our fleshly desires want. We often do not personally sense that because this disease is really so vile, because we are very selfish and self-centered human beings, because of sin. When we turn our hearts toward God, he can forgive us of this sinful disease, and renew our hearts, and make us a new creation in Christ.

    • #95287132
      Anna
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      2) Q) What is the CORE DISEASE of the human soul? Why is it wretched? Why do we often NOT personally sense that this disease IS REALLY SO VILE?
      A) The Core disease is that we treasure someone or something more than God and the temptation and pining for our attention, money, things of this world is increasingly not only hard to avoid, at times but becoming hazardous and destructive. When we try to dine out, especially at a fast-food place, we ALWAYS leave feeling ‘unsatisfied’, was a waste of time and our money, 9 out of 10 times or wishing we never went or should have just stayed home and cooked! The Core disease is so prevalent & overwhelming in our society that no matter which way we turn, wherever we go, there is marketing and ads to ‘buy, buy, buy’. ITS’ LIKE THE SIGNS AND IDEAS BECOME FLESH AND LITERALLY TRY TO REACH OUT AND GRAB YOU, so you do it’s bidding! More and more I’m learning that nothing satisfies me like Jesus and I’m learning by the Spirit’s help, to ‘turn my head’ or fix my gaze on something else. I take a list (no matter how few items I’m shopping for). When I feel the ‘pressure’ to shop for whatever, these strategies help me zero-in on what’s ‘needed’ vs most ‘wants!
      B) I think it is ‘WRETCHED” because it is becoming so engrained in us in our society, BUT MORE SO BECAUSE IT IS SO subtle!

    • #95284748
      Chantra
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      The core disease of the human soul is to make life make sense without God. To say that he is not essential or to use Him at our convenience and then discard Him and His word when it does not meet our immediate needs. It is to use him like a Genie in a bottle that we can toss away once our wishes are used up. It is wretched because it perverts God’s love for us, who He is to us and what our purpose is when we are in right relationship with Him. We don’t notice it because we are so full of self that we can’t see how we exalt ourselves above Him.

    • #95279612
      Debi
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      The core disease of the human soul is that we treasure someone or something more than we treasure our relationship with God. We believe there is something better for our souls than what God can provide through relating directly with Him. We chose the blessings of God over the Blesser.(God)

      It is wretched because we are totally self centered in our desires. Whatever we go after a part from God becomes the master of our lives, rather than God. Self becomes the center of life when we treasure some good more than treasuring God.

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      Our Daily Bread
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