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SoulCare Foundations III: Provisions And Practices

  1. Lesson One
    Holy Tension: Leading People Toward the Cycle of Spiritual Movement
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  2. Lesson Two
    Four Kinds of Conversations: Provoking the Right Kind of Tension
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    1 Assessment
  3. Lesson Three
    The Rhythm of SoulCare: Four Movements
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    1 Assessment
  4. Lesson Four
    The Doctrine of First and Second Things: Beginning to Understand Radical Dependence on Supernatural Resources for Supernatural Living
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    1 Assessment
  5. Lesson Five
    New Covenant Provisions: Entering Tension that the Spirit Creates and Resolves
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    1 Assessment
  6. Lesson Six
    New Covenant Community: What the Spirit Makes Possible
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    1 Assessment
  7. Lesson Seven
    Safety and Excitement: What Makes Someone Willing to be Known and Explored
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    1 Assessment
  8. Lesson Eight
    The Purity of Self-Awareness: Encouraging Trust in Another
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    1 Assessment
  9. Lesson Nine
    Discernment: Building Confidence in the Process of Discovery
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    1 Assessment
  10. Lesson Ten
    Releasing What Is Alive: Touching the Soul with Power
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    1 Assessment
  11. Course Wrap-Up
    Course Completion
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Christian Learning Center Forums Briefly review what role each of the following topics plays in SoulCare: passion, wisdom, journeying reality, vision, reframing, and categories of understanding.

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  • Briefly review what role each of the following topics plays in SoulCare: passion, wisdom, journeying reality, vision, reframing, and categories of understanding.

    Posted by info on 02/25/2021 at 11:32
    Austin Kulp replied 2 weeks, 3 days ago 40 Members · 39 Replies
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  • Austin Kulp

    Member
    05/14/2025 at 23:04

    Passion is the desire to help, wisdom is knowing God is the one who changes people, journeying is going along with people in their soulcare journey, vision is looking at showing people your vision for God as their focus, re framing is refocusing on wanting God more than their problems, and categories of understanding are the ways they can understand what God wants in their life

  • Nathanael Berry

    Member
    05/06/2025 at 06:16

    Passion: The inner passions that we experience revealing what we want or desire within the context of a soul care conversation. This may revolve around the need to be seen as effective in the soul care process. Wisdom is really based around the following things, but is the method through which we ministry to others. Journeying reality: Being present to the person’s current experience. Vision: Seeing where the Spirit might be leading the person. Reframing: Moving from specific problems to the broader story of the soul and relationships. Flesh dynamics: Understanding the fallen nature, volitional choices, and emotional responses of the person. Recognizing: the image of God in the person and their thirst for God despite depravity.

  • Kathryn Jean-Rejouis

    Member
    01/18/2025 at 17:37

    Passion is about the motives within. Wisdom is knowing where you stand before God leaving a thirst for Him above all things. A journeying reality is the starting point. The vision is the goal or outcome which should be an appetite for God over all outcomes. Reframing is the transition from the starting pointing to the goal, changing from the journeying reality to the vision. Finally the categories of understanding is remembering that each person has their own unique story and brokenness developed over time yet are made in God’s image.

  • Jennifer Reed

    Member
    09/30/2024 at 12:16

    passion = checking the motives within in order to effectively begin the process of SoulCare

    wisdom = helping to stir the appetite for God and release the Spirit of God in the life of another

    journeying reality = the starting point for a person, their “You are here”

    vision = the ultimate goal, in Soul Care we need the vision to be that the person has an appetite for God that is greater than anything, including their appetite for “solving the problem” of their journeying reality.

    reframing = asking questions that start to transition the focus from the journeying reality to the vision of having an appetite for God that is greater than any other appetite.

    categories of understanding = remembering this person is made in the image of God and has a capacity to love like God, but that they, like all of us, are a broken being, who needs the work of God.

  • Ashley Gentry (Bowen is maiden name)

    Member
    09/23/2024 at 07:04

    Passion: What’s going on inside of me?

    Wisdom: What is going on inside that other person, and what is the Holy Spirit up to?

    Journeying reality: a presenting problem, issue or burden

    Vision: the person with an appetite for God stirred so much that the other appetites in life are diminished

    Reframing: what is the whole story of this person’s soul? Relational patterns throughout life etc

    Categories of understanding: this person is made in God’s image with the capacity to desire, perceive, choose and feel…and these capacities have been corrupted by the fall.

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Christian Learning Center Forums How might your experiences in the cycle of spiritual growth help you provide more effective SoulCare?

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  • Virginia A.Miller

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    05/29/2025 at 20:38

    I’m in the same place as my directeez

  • Jennifer Reed

    Member
    09/30/2024 at 12:21

    I have found that confidence and trying to release the power of God in the lives of others is completely inadequate, and in fact, can be detrimental, if I am accomplishing it in my own power and with my own forced confidence in my own abilities. Only when I recognize my own brokenness, repent, and abandon myself to God, can I truly have confidence, but that confidence does not come from my own abilities, but from my confidence in God, who is already at work in this person’ life and my own. I can then, and only then, release what is best in me to others. The Spirit of God flows through me and can work to open others up to His work in their lives.

  • Ashley Gentry (Bowen is maiden name)

    Member
    09/23/2024 at 07:05

    I’m seeing the very cycle he discussed in my own emotions as I take this course! I’ve experienced much brokenness and repentance in it

  • Rebecca Belliveau

    Member
    06/17/2024 at 10:34

    I believe that God gives us each this experience of spiritual growth so that we CAN then walk with another. We all have to come to the places of brokenness, repentance, abandonment, confidence and release, and as we do, we more fully understand our own inadequacy, and can fully appreciate anyone who may ask us to join i their journey, just exactly where they are, but also where God can bring them. We may even have similarities along the way that can be helpful as someone tries to move out of their brokenness into repentance and see their need for Christ in an even deeper way because He has opened their eyes and given them more clarity. We need each other, God made us that way and that is why this type of care is so necessary today. People have spent too much time alone without others and without God and just can’t see a way to change, because without the Spirit indwelling we cannot.

  • Jeff D

    Member
    06/15/2024 at 11:45

    First I have to remember that I am self-centered and broken. I must rely upon God if I am ever truly going to be effective in helping anyone, especially myself, my past experiences have led me to where and who I am, and this can create a lot of empathy. But I must do more than just sit in the emotions of a moment to stir SoulCare, I must learn how to listen to God and what he wants for his children in there journeying reality.

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Christian Learning Center Forums Why is it a mistake to focus on retreating, advising, or empathizing while attempting to provide SoulCare? Which of these three mistakes are you personally more likely to make as you attempt to engage in SoulCare? What do you think predisposes you to make that mistake?

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  • Why is it a mistake to focus on retreating, advising, or empathizing while attempting to provide SoulCare? Which of these three mistakes are you personally more likely to make as you attempt to engage in SoulCare? What do you think predisposes you to make that mistake?

    Posted by info on 02/25/2021 at 11:32
    Virginia A.Miller replied 2 days, 18 hours ago 32 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Virginia A.Miller

    Member
    05/29/2025 at 20:39

    Self focus away from focus on God

  • Jennifer Reed

    Member
    09/30/2024 at 12:36

    Retreating, advising, and empathizing while attempting to provide SoulCare all place the emphasis on “removing the symptoms” for either the one who is providing the SoulCare or for the one who is receiving it. Retreating shuts down the ability of the Spirit to move through you. You effectively put a wall up between yourself and the one who needs the SoulCare because you’re confused, puzzled, disgusted, etc. and feel the need to reframe the situation in ways that you can handle. Advising places the emphasis on your own ability to glean from worldly or biblical wisdom and apply it to this particular situation. This only serves to make a person reliant upon your own wisdom and the world’s answers instead of those of the Spirit working in their lives. Empathy, though it is important in SoulCare, can lead to it becoming the emphasis of the interaction. The person leaves feeling very validated and loved by you, but it doesn’t lead to the overall vision of SoulCare, which is that they will have an appetite for God that is greater than any other appetite.

    I am most likely to make the advising mistake, and have made it in the past. I do a lot of reading and I am constantly learning. As an educator and minister by training, with spiritual gifts that tend to lead me to teaching/shepherding roles in the church and with others, I can easily try to understand a journeying reality with my own eyes, analyze the situation, and put together a fairly comprehensive plan for better health and wholeness. There’s only one problem with that…..that goal of moving to a healthier space is a short sighted view of the vision God has for all of us. It comes from my own brain and not from a space of recognizing my own brokenness and need for my appetite for God to be greater than any other appetite.

  • Ashley Gentry (Bowen is maiden name)

    Member
    09/23/2024 at 07:10

    All are flesh. Retreating is for my own comfort. Advising is for my own comfort. Empathizing is for my own comfort.

    I’m personally likely to engage in any of those 3 depending on the personality of the other person. A dominating or angry person makes me want to retreat, especially if they rant or do monologues. Probably because I struggle w people pleasing and don’t want to interrupt them, yet I find this intolerable. Redefining someone’s struggle in terms I can handle is totally for my own comfort.

    Empathy comes naturally to me, so I’m probably most likely to lean on this.

  • Rebecca Belliveau

    Member
    06/17/2024 at 10:40

    They are all mistakes because they all say “I can do something to help here in my own strength,” and that is simply not true. In ourselves we can do nothing, we need the Spirit to do the work in them and in us! I think I probably most often have thought (prior to these course) that I could bring “good biblibal advice,” I see the folly in this now, but I still have to be honest and will sometimes think as I meet with others that I might have something to offer. Fortunately for them, I have learned to listen to the Spirit when he gently says “not now Rebecca!” I believe the reason I am disposed to this is that I really want to help and want to think that there is somethig I can do, but when I am being completely honest I KNOW there is nothing in ME that is good except Christ in me. So allowing Him to do the work is my best course of action.

  • Kelly Rotenberry

    Member
    01/03/2024 at 00:53

    When I am retreating I am focused on my own comfort zone and am backing away from what makes me uncomfortable. Our focus should be in what the Spirit is guiding us to do and say and our comfort is not a factor. Advising is me giving an opinion even when taken from a scripture, if the Lord didn’t lead you to use that scripture and in how to lead the other person I to a deeper understanding of Christ with it, you shouldn’t be using it. Waiting on the Holy Spirit to guide. Empathy is good and necessary but when that is all we have to offer it is not soul care. I think I am more prone to advising because I have been doing that with scripture for a long time

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